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Post by deadcityradio on Apr 8, 2008 1:23:40 GMT
I was a bit underwhelmed by this myself - much better and in the same vein are the Miguel Angel Martin scripted "Snuff 2000" shorts featuring Whitehouse soundtrack... www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGNpuhyWMUEthe use of 'you dont have to say please' at the end of the trailer is brilliant but the trailer itself was a bit rubbish. The guy saying 'relax' repeatedly just sounded cheesy. What did you like about the film? i am a little intrigued by it.
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Post by deadcityradio on Apr 8, 2008 1:42:36 GMT
I saw "Waterpower" many years ago - a striking performance by Jamie Gillis (akin to David Hess in "Last House On The Left"), and the film has a real sense of depravity running throughout. It's not a film I'd want to sit through again, though. I've sat through it many times....not for "getting off" reasons though.... but enough to notice there is a riddle in the film... which I won't give away here. Hint: find a copy of The Ascent of Man by Jacob Bronowski. The director Shaun Costello says there are several riddles in his mid-70's films, but that is the only one I've noticed so far. Waterpower is one of my favourite ever films. Anychance you could explain what you are referring to?
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Post by Joe Chip on Apr 10, 2008 13:23:08 GMT
I was a bit underwhelmed by this myself - much better and in the same vein are the Miguel Angel Martin scripted "Snuff 2000" shorts featuring Whitehouse soundtrack... www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGNpuhyWMUEthe use of 'you dont have to say please' at the end of the trailer is brilliant but the trailer itself was a bit rubbish. The guy saying 'relax' repeatedly just sounded cheesy. What did you like about the film? i am a little intrigued by it. Hadn't seen that trailer - I've two versions or 'episodes' of Snuff 2000 on VHS, one is a straight-faced guide on how to kill without being caught and the other one which I really like is where the camera angle pulls away from what looks like a snuff movie to reveal two 'transgressive' collector nerds watching it - one makes a pass at the other and is rebuffed - great sense of bathos and poor taste humour.
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Post by cblanger on Apr 10, 2008 16:16:07 GMT
the use of 'you dont have to say please' at the end of the trailer is brilliant but the trailer itself was a bit rubbish. The guy saying 'relax' repeatedly just sounded cheesy. What did you like about the film? i am a little intrigued by it. the guy in question is William Bennett performing "Mindphaser" from the Birthdeath Experience LP, the first Whitehouse album.
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Post by drillbitch on Apr 10, 2008 19:02:25 GMT
Does the SPK DVD feature the infamous "Despair" video? It IS the Despair film! Wish I had money. They've mucked around with it, re-editing abd colourising bits (unless my old vhs had been copied so many times the colour had leeched out of it...ah the good old days of video piracy). It's still well worth getting but seems to have lost it's edge a wee bit. I can remember the first time I saw the morgue/med lab bit of Despair and it was one of those rare moments when I was actually shocked by what I was seeing. Talking of snuffy stuff has anyone else seen/got the August Underground trilogy and if so what do you make of them?
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Post by theotherjohn on Apr 10, 2008 21:52:25 GMT
It IS the Despair film! Wish I had money. They've mucked around with it, re-editing abd colourising bits (unless my old vhs had been copied so many times the colour had leeched out of it...ah the good old days of video piracy). It's still well worth getting but seems to have lost it's edge a wee bit. I can remember the first time I saw the morgue/med lab bit of Despair and it was one of those rare moments when I was actually shocked by what I was seeing. Talking of snuffy stuff has anyone else seen/got the August Underground trilogy and if so what do you make of them? Yeah, I've read about changes to it such as manipulating the speed on the "headjob" etc. Shall still pick it up though at some point. The August Underground trilogy's a strange one. I thought the first one was great, and genuinely disturbing at parts. The opening 10 minutes in fact are very unsettling and I felt genuine concern for the actress in that scene. Needs to be seen on VHS really for the full effect . As for the second one... well, I hated it. Too much emphasis on grossing out the audience (who needs to see someone puking nonstop for 15 minutes?*) and the victims were often disgusting pigs. They should have described this one as bore-nography - I've rarely seen such a tired exercise in shock's for shock's sake. Ugly at times yes, but really not enjoyable in the slightest. Might have appeal if you're a 15 year old death metal fan though. The third one is a lot better thankfully, the main characters seem more developed instead of just idiotic killers that shout a lot and giggle endlessly. That being said, I remember very little of this one, but I do remember it being quite well done compared to the second (though still not a touch on the first). Overall, an interesting and quite important horror series - if you're a fan of Murder Set Pieces I see no reason why you shouldn't at least check out the other works of Vogel and co. *Well, unless Slaughtered Vomit Dolls was your thing
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Post by drillbitch on Apr 11, 2008 7:51:38 GMT
They've mucked around with it, re-editing abd colourising bits (unless my old vhs had been copied so many times the colour had leeched out of it...ah the good old days of video piracy). It's still well worth getting but seems to have lost it's edge a wee bit. I can remember the first time I saw the morgue/med lab bit of Despair and it was one of those rare moments when I was actually shocked by what I was seeing. Talking of snuffy stuff has anyone else seen/got the August Underground trilogy and if so what do you make of them? Yeah, I've read about changes to it such as manipulating the speed on the "headjob" etc. Shall still pick it up though at some point. The August Underground trilogy's a strange one. I thought the first one was great, and genuinely disturbing at parts. The opening 10 minutes in fact are very unsettling and I felt genuine concern for the actress in that scene. Needs to be seen on VHS really for the full effect . As for the second one... well, I hated it. Too much emphasis on grossing out the audience (who needs to see someone puking nonstop for 15 minutes?*) and the victims were often disgusting pigs. They should have described this one as bore-nography - I've rarely seen such a tired exercise in shock's for shock's sake. Ugly at times yes, but really not enjoyable in the slightest. Might have appeal if you're a 15 year old death metal fan though. The third one is a lot better thankfully, the main characters seem more developed instead of just idiotic killers that shout a lot and giggle endlessly. That being said, I remember very little of this one, but I do remember it being quite well done compared to the second (though still not a touch on the first). Overall, an interesting and quite important horror series - if you're a fan of Murder Set Pieces I see no reason why you shouldn't at least check out the other works of Vogel and co. *Well, unless Slaughtered Vomit Dolls was your thing Never did get round to watching Slaughtered Vomit Dolls, my mate's got a copy but he wasn't impressed, I did rather enjoy the OTT cheesy promotional material for it, director's pact with the Devil etc. Agree with you about August Underground's Mordem, a lesson in turning extreme gross gore into a snooze fest...sometimes 'less is more' in the horror zone. I love Murder-Set- Pieces and I'm not ashamed to admit it. I know the acting's terrible but it's worth it just for that threesome scene (strangely reminiscent of Harry the Hare's threesome in Meet the Feebles) and that box of false torture teeth. As for the Despair dvd, it's still worth getting but be prepared for a slightly diluted effect.
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Post by patrickhernandez on Apr 11, 2008 13:24:29 GMT
They've mucked around with it, re-editing abd colourising bits (unless my old vhs had been copied so many times the colour had leeched out of it...ah the good old days of video piracy). It's still well worth getting but seems to have lost it's edge a wee bit. I can remember the first time I saw the morgue/med lab bit of Despair and it was one of those rare moments when I was actually shocked by what I was seeing. actually, i'd love to see 'despair' again for that reason alone. i remember roundabout the mid '80s or maybe slightly before it kinda took the place of 'animal farm' as thee mental film you just had to see. i sometimes think it's a shame, with the advent of t' interweb and everything pretty much a few mouse-clicks away that the whole buzz of tracking down these 'esoteric holy grails' is but a distant memory.
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Post by motownoni on Apr 25, 2008 8:53:23 GMT
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Post by motownoni on May 15, 2008 19:03:20 GMT
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Post by motownoni on May 18, 2008 12:04:43 GMT
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Post by drillbitch on Aug 21, 2008 20:08:44 GMT
I can't remember if somebody mentioned it here before but has anyone seen The Great Ecstasy of Robert Carmichael? Just picked up a cheap copy on Ebay after reading a few considerably conflicting reviews about it and thought I'd make my own mind up about it, I shall be reporting back after I've watched it.
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Post by theotherjohn on Aug 22, 2008 11:31:48 GMT
I can't remember if somebody mentioned it here before but has anyone seen The Great Ecstasy of Robert Carmichael? Just picked up a cheap copy on Ebay after reading a few considerably conflicting reviews about it and thought I'd make my own mind up about it, I shall be reporting back after I've watched it. I saw a copy after Joe Chip/jessefriedman mentioned it. It was quite well done but fairly dull and quite pretentious at times. It didn't blow me away, but it's worth watching anyway just because it's one of the more interesting British films of late. You may want to check out Straightheads as well for another modern exploitation type film (if you can suffer Danny Dyer again).
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Post by drillbitch on Aug 22, 2008 20:18:09 GMT
I can't remember if somebody mentioned it here before but has anyone seen The Great Ecstasy of Robert Carmichael? Just picked up a cheap copy on Ebay after reading a few considerably conflicting reviews about it and thought I'd make my own mind up about it, I shall be reporting back after I've watched it. I saw a copy after Joe Chip/jessefriedman mentioned it. It was quite well done but fairly dull and quite pretentious at times. It didn't blow me away, but it's worth watching anyway just because it's one of the more interesting British films of late. You may want to check out Straightheads as well for another modern exploitation type film (if you can suffer Danny Dyer again). Thanks John, I was sure it had been mentioned on here before. I'm always interested to see how drug users are portrayed in films considering my line of work and the short clip I watched of the film on youtube seemed quite realistic.
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Post by theotherjohn on Aug 31, 2008 22:01:31 GMT
Thumbs up people - I've just found out Caligula is being released uncut in the UK next month, in a lavish 4 DVD boxset no less! Would make a nice purchase alongside the new BFI edition of Salo which is also out around the same time.
I'll never forget how strange it was seeing the uncut version of Caligula a few years ago on an IMAX screen...
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