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Post by Danhod on Mar 4, 2010 7:44:19 GMT
Ive always wondered, what is the song playing in the background?
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Post by margaras on Mar 4, 2010 13:38:01 GMT
it's from the soundtrack to "deep throat"
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Post by Danhod on Mar 4, 2010 14:07:23 GMT
Haven't seen it, but now it all makes sense, because Linda Lovelace was in it, and Chuck took her earnings from the movie and abused her during the production of it
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Post by margaras on Mar 4, 2010 18:32:08 GMT
it references in particular a 1971 loop "dog fucker" featuring linda lovelace and rufus the dog ("hey linda, hope you like laying dogs" / "come on boys, give rufus a hand"). the cover of "twice is not enough" is also partially a reference. "gun's on the table" refers to lovelace claiming she was forced into pornography by traynor at gunpoint. also, the lines "yours is the ordeal, mine is the pleasure, as linda found out from chuck traynor" on "we've got the power" refers to lovelace's autobiography "ordeal". lovelace's story was a major influence on andrea dworkin's work, and of course dworkin continued to be refered to for many years by whitehouse and sotos.
as an aside, i have heard that "winter heat" starring jamie gillis inspired some of the lines in "you don't have to say please", and "quality time" refers in places to dialogue from his "walking toilet bowls" series. i have no desire to see those films myself, perhaps someone with a stronger stomach than i can confirm.
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Post by Danhod on Mar 4, 2010 18:57:37 GMT
certainly a major influence!
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Post by dirtydisco on Mar 5, 2010 12:51:25 GMT
The original Lp soundtrack is apparently nearly impossible to find but it was re-released some shoirt while ago on CD and vinyl and can easily be gotten on discogs. I'm thinking of buying a copy.
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Post by Joe Chip on Mar 5, 2010 13:33:34 GMT
Haven't seen it, but now it all makes sense, because Linda Lovelace was in it, and Chuck took her earnings from the movie and abused her during the production of it I don't think Traynor made much from the film either, there was a documentary a couple of years ago which explained the mob takeover of what was a tiny independent project... Somewhere in Sotos (one of the Parasites I think) he quotes a series of Linda's very different accounts of the production - she changed her story again after Ordeal. So the portrayal of Chuck in that book is best regarded as a semi-fictional construct of abusive male power under the influence of radical feminism. Dworkin's best work for my money Mercy (one of the most self-consciously extreme and genuinely transgressive novels of the 20th century) is in a very similar vein and inspired parts of later WH lyrics.
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Post by ottom on Aug 31, 2011 14:57:26 GMT
as an aside, i have heard that "winter heat" starring jamie gillis inspired some of the lines in "you don't have to say please", and "quality time" refers in places to dialogue from his "walking toilet bowls" series. i have no desire to see those films myself, perhaps someone with a stronger stomach than i can confirm. www.youtube.com/watch?v=37xr34C46Fw&NR=1She looks pretty good, I might say.
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Post by pissfun on Oct 29, 2011 16:20:27 GMT
as an aside, i have heard that "winter heat" starring jamie gillis inspired some of the lines in "you don't have to say please", and "quality time" refers in places to dialogue from his "walking toilet bowls" series. i have no desire to see those films myself, perhaps someone with a stronger stomach than i can confirm. re: quality time dialogue, that's from the second of third Jamie Gillis video with a woman called Carol - the clip accompanying "Quality Time" in the youtube link posted above is from the same film. It's sometimes referred to as Say Yes to Chastity for reasons that will become obvious once you watch the clip. I've never been able to watch any of that stuff in full, and I haven't seen any of it in many years. As a bit of a Whitehouse completist, I am curious to see how closely Bennett's lyrics mirror Gillis' delivery and word choice. Gillis was a bit of a master of verbal defamation, particularly in the On the Prowl series where he can be seen/heard resorting to a level of racism that boggles the mind.
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