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Post by dirtydisco on Jul 1, 2009 4:29:29 GMT
I could be completely off base, because I do live in the insular world of Cincinnati, Ohio, USA, but it seems to me most Whitehouse fans and noise/PE fans in general are straight white men, and older, as are most of the artists themselves are. (Unless like you count younger artists like Yellow Swans or C. Spencer Yeh who lives in my hometown and I couldn't care less about, and a few others.) I'm 25 and gay, and have been a fan of WH/noise/P.E. for about 4 years now. "Great White Death", "Thank Your Lucky Stars" and "Cruise" are probably my favorite WH albums. I even have a copy of the original 4 track CD version of "TYLS", not the 7 track track re-release, and that makes me feel even more special for some reason because it's more 'authentic' or something, I'm sure that's lame. But I have a really devoted obsession to this type of music, yet all of my friends find it abhorrent and offensive. So what I'm asking is are there any other gay fans, or women, or people as young as me on this forum?
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Post by drillbitch on Jul 1, 2009 7:45:20 GMT
Well I'm female and I know a number of other ladies that are seriously into Whitehouse and PE I've also got several gay friends into the scene too so they are out there and I do believe a few of them are lurking about on the forum too
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Post by Joe Chip on Jul 1, 2009 11:11:44 GMT
Two of the frequent posters here are gay and there are quite a few people your age too.
The original 4-track CD of TYLS was the one item I could never track down when I was trying for a full Susan Lawly discography collection about twelve years ago...gave up on this slightly sad ambition when the special edition CDs came out.
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Post by gzutt on Jul 1, 2009 13:43:38 GMT
I'm 21, been into Whitehouse and other power electronics stuff for about 5 years or so. I have a gay friend who's my age and into Whitehouse and extreme music in general, so you're definitely not alone.
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Post by ljp on Jul 1, 2009 14:23:47 GMT
Yep. I'm gay and heavily into BDSM currently...
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Post by dirtydisco on Jul 1, 2009 16:13:29 GMT
Two of the frequent posters here are gay and there are quite a few people your age too. The original 4-track CD of TYLS was the one item I could never track down when I was trying for a full Susan Lawly discography collection about twelve years ago...gave up on this slightly sad ambition when the special edition CDs came out. I was lucky to enough to find it at a used record store for $2.00 a couple years ago, I found 'Erector' on CD used at the same time for another $2.00. In my city, finding two things like that at once at a "Half Price Books" store is cause for a stroke.
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Post by margaras on Jul 1, 2009 21:45:25 GMT
i have several female friends - from early twenties to late thirties and some of whom are bisexual - who are fans of noise and extreme music in general, and in several cases in particular of whitehouse, consumer electronics, ramleh... not to mention contemporary noise and power electronics from america, japan and europe, areas in which i am not all that knowledgable or interested in myself. many are personally involved in their own extreme music and noise projects and are active in playing and putting on gigs. i know women who are fans of peter sotos' writing and so on. obviously challenging and unusual material is not going to appeal to a majority of people, but the people who do enjoy it aren't as easily defined in gender, age and sexuality terms as one might assume. certainly, the whitehouse concerts i was at personally had a notable range of age and gender in the audiences.
i recall william bennett writing an article a couple of years ago for a magazine about gender in noise music... i wish i had a copy of it, i can't remember which magazine it was. anyone any ideas?
anyhow, i think people assume noise and extreme experimental music are the sole interests of the straight white men as they are the ones who are more likely to engage in the pedantry that often characterises specialised music discussion forums online. and i also do think that the american and european noise and power electronics scenes have really stalled in a mire of macho posturing and willful unintelligence. so much of contemporary derivative "extreme" music of this type is hindered by the contrivances of either beer-swilling, dope-smoking, head-banging machismo or stunted adolescent transgression which hasn't progressed beyond issue 2 of "pure"... and thats an enviornment which some women may well find off-putting (that said, i'm sure there are a few women who love exactly those elements).
funny thing is, when it comes down to frank depictions of sexuality and extremes of fantasy, it's usually men who are more liable to be shocked than women. in fact, in our culture many women can psychologically accept their own extreme personal private fantasies without virtually any of the anxieties that tend to riddle men when faced with their own sexuality and deepest fantasies.
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Post by sypha666 on Jul 6, 2009 4:49:40 GMT
I'm 29 years old and gay... when I got into Whitehouse I was probably around 21 or 22, in college at the time. At first I was more interested in the Come Org albums but as the years went by I became more interested in the more "digital" SL material.
I don't know any women in real life who like Whitehouse (or men either for that matter), but quite a few of my female online friends are into that kind of music.
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Post by merzbow on Jul 13, 2009 23:58:48 GMT
im now 24 but ive been into noise (harsh/power electronics and other noise for about 4 years now)
my current girlfriend is a big noise fan and does like whitehouse i never thought ide find another person IRL who likes WH much less a female
im also into most other forms of extreme music and also forign film and animation
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Post by Lord Cornwallis on Aug 11, 2009 23:33:03 GMT
beer-swilling, dope-smoking, head-banging machismo Removing this element from the act of listening to Whitehouse? Thats a little bit corny. Thats like making extreme noise for a purpose or cause [little kid voice]Yeah Man!![/little kid voice]. That purpose or cause is usually motivated by sexual frustration and appeasement to good looking lesser extreme people. Fuck that!! Swagger motherfucker, get some.
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Post by Imaginary Forces on Sept 13, 2009 13:34:12 GMT
Well, I have been listening to WH and Noise in general for many moons now, although I am now 30 so maybe that doesn´t count as young anymore. My girlfriend listens to a bit of noise, though she isn´t as into it as I, and she is 20. Some of my friends who listen to noise are Gay or Bi. This seems a bit of a silly question to me. But then maybe thats because I live among the "Metrosexual multitrend based knob fest of swinging band wagon jumping skinny jean wearing purple mulletted juvekore listening twats" that is London.
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Post by vaguelyhumanoid on May 20, 2010 2:24:29 GMT
I'm both young and queer, and I love noise/PE.
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Post by brook on May 21, 2010 22:48:27 GMT
18 years old and gay. I think I was 16 when I got into noise. We do exist.
Edit: I didn't realize this topic was kinda old until now. Damn bumpers.
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Post by subvert47 on Aug 27, 2010 7:26:44 GMT
straight white men, and older you got me there although I'd add queer, trans and femme to that, so maybe not quite
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