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Post by knuckles on May 25, 2006 18:44:21 GMT
I've watched some Icke stuff too - Secrets of the Matrix. Some of it is interesting, but the stuff about human/lizard cross-breeding is silly and pointless, and unfortunely will be a discredit and a diversion from the more relevant stuff he talks about. I also find his delivery funny, the way he prances around the stage.
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Post by patrickhernandez on May 26, 2006 9:06:16 GMT
the stuff about human/lizard cross-breeding is silly and pointless, I think you may find this is a euphemism. One with a long tradition in 'conspiracy theory' circles and unfortunely will be a discredit and a diversion from the more relevant stuff he talks about. What? He still reads the football results?? ;D
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Post by lethal on May 26, 2006 11:00:53 GMT
i agree about the lizard thing - i just couldn't get my head around that ( not saying it's shit tho' but ...... )
This book i've posted about has continual references to sources of info he has used making it a bit more accessable that the reptilian shape shifters !
Highly recommended if you have any interest in 9/11
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Post by ljp on May 26, 2006 11:21:14 GMT
the stuff about human/lizard cross-breeding is silly and pointless, I think you may find this is a euphemism. One with a long tradition in 'conspiracy theory' circles and unfortunely will be a discredit and a diversion from the more relevant stuff he talks about. What? He still reads the football results?? ;D You've finally said something I agree with.
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Post by luke on Oct 2, 2006 13:12:13 GMT
I highly recommend Sam Harris' book 'The End of Faith'. Religion can be attacked from so many angles, and this book seems to cover quite a few, but overall I would say the book's message is that religion is fucking up the world. It's really scathing in parts, often humerous at the same time, and uses some great analogies and examples from history which make it easy to understand. The book left me feeling lucky that I can question religion without being tortured to death (those pesky inquisitors really can get creative when it comes to finding ways to inflict pain).
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Post by patrickhernandez on Oct 6, 2006 11:47:14 GMT
has anyone read Richard Dawkins' "the God Delusion" yet? sure it'll be great, just waiting till it comes out in soft cover. His TV shows on religion were genius.
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Post by lethal on Oct 19, 2006 17:51:50 GMT
i've had the book ' the story of CRASS ' arrive today. I thought it might be a flimsy thin effort but its a good substantial book with good photos etc. Only flicked through as you do but i can't wait to get stuck in
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Post by lethal on Oct 22, 2006 18:09:03 GMT
finished the CRASS book today
recommended for fans or the curious. Good unseen pics. What is apparent is that CRASS members became trapped by what they had created. They couldn't chat up girls in the audience after the show cause it was ' sexist' , couldn't go to a gig as a punter and get pissed cause they had to answer an avalanche of questions about the minor's strike, Falkland's war etc ...........
very misunderstood by all accounts
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Post by knuckles on Oct 25, 2006 17:28:29 GMT
Did you read Penny's book, Shibboleth - My Revolting Life, I think. Very good, especially when he goes on about that piece of toilet paper stuck to his shoe while he was chatting up some punk chick.
Glad that you said the Crass book was good. I'll see about picking up a copy.
I also have a sociological treatise of Crass that some guy did for his thesis at uni. Picked it up from a show years ago. I can maybe scan it in and make a pdf if anyone is interested.
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Post by patrickhernandez on Oct 25, 2006 21:24:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2006 15:54:49 GMT
Picking up on Lethal's point, what interested me in the book was the sometimes strained dynamic between each member, which seemed to come to the fore in the whole "Yes Sir, I Will" period. Imagine having to perform a whole album's worth of material that you couldn't stand. I thought some of Steve Ignorant's comments were quite candid and revealing.
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Post by drillbitch on Oct 26, 2006 20:04:34 GMT
CRASS played twice in my home town during the early 80's in the rather unfitting venue of the old town hall concert hall, I was about 15 back then and I remember things getting quite out of hand.
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Post by lethal on Oct 26, 2006 21:46:31 GMT
Picking up on Lethal's point, what interested me in the book was the sometimes strained dynamic between each member, which seemed to come to the fore in the whole "Yes Sir, I Will" period. Imagine having to perform a whole album's worth of material that you couldn't stand. I thought some of Steve Ignorant's comments were quite candid and revealing. wholly agree here.... Steve Ignorant's comments were most refreshing in as much as it showed him/the band out to be human with ' normal ' feelings and not these stodgy anarchists who never had any fun cause they were too serious about life ( although i guess they weren't that at all in person but made out to be by the media and some of their fans which was picked up by the rest of us ) yes, recommended. Also currently waiting for the book ' the day the country died' which is Ian Glasper's second reflection on the UK 2nd gen punk scene, this book in particular the anarcho scene ( hence my buying the CRASS book in the Amazon ' what about this book as well' offer ) Shows how powerful the fanzine and word of mouth world was during those days - my mind boggles at how we ever heard of gigs, bands, records etc etc etc without the internet.
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Post by patrickhernandez on Oct 27, 2006 11:46:25 GMT
actually, nice guy tho he is , i thought steve came across as a right fanny-pad in the book. some of his quotes really made me cringe. sure he feels the same seeing them in print.
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Post by patrickhernandez on Oct 27, 2006 11:56:47 GMT
CRASS played twice in my home town during the early 80's in the rather unfitting venue of the old town hall concert hall, I was about 15 back then and I remember things getting quite out of hand. Yea, i saw some mental fighting at crass gigs, inc. Andy T getting stabbed when they played dunfermline. Always find it strange to think back then - early '80s - it was almost mandatory that there would be hardcore violence or some battle with skins/rival punks whenever you went to gigs but now you wouldn't even consider venturing back to a place if you saw anything approaching that level of violence.
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